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 Post subject: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 28th, 2023, 10:56 
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Hi all!
I have a Windows spanned volume on my 3 WD 4 TB hard drives. Unfortunately, when I connected them to make a backup of recent content, the last one (which should be empty/nearly empty) failed.

Now I'm trying to assemble this volume in DMDE to copy my data to a backup drive, but after trying to construct RAID > JBOD and adding my 2 drives, I have this result. I can open this volume ("Archiwum") and it shows the whole FS but only files from the first drive are visible. (adding a NULL disk as the 3rd disk make the same result)
Thank you for help! :) :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 4:46 
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If you used Windows to create the span I suppose you spanned partitions and so for example offset will not be zero.
Add partition TAB screenshots for both individual drives.

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I can open this volume ("Archiwum") and it shows the whole FS but only


Yeah, it would even with only first drive attached.

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 5:06 
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I don't exactly know what you mean by partition TAB?

But I assume that maybe it will be this:

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Thank you for your help!


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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 6:30 
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Try adding those two 4 TB LDM data partitions to a JBOD in DMDE instead (so offset 32768, size 7814037134). Adding null disk you could even not bother with, if DMDE complains about volume size just ignore that.

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 6:51 
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Okay so this (if I did it correctly) didn't seem to help

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:01 
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Pick archive NTFS > Open volume

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:13 
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I did it, and it still shows all of the folders but only files from the 1st drive are visible


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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:17 
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How would you know that? I mean I have 1 TB SSD, 70% used, but how would I know 'physical' location of the files unless I specifically look in MFT where a file is located?

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:23 
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Also 7814037134 is NOT end location, it's number of sectors.

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:26 
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I know that because I have sorted everything by years.
Since it is a spanned volume, the 1st drive is being written 1st,
so I can see that I have all the files in 2018, and newer files are missing from the folders.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
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I can't paste a 7814037134 into the "number of sectors" because it says that selected range extends beyond the device bounds

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:47 
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My bad, 7814037134 is last sector. So should be, so offset: 32768, end: 7814037134, number sectors: (7814037134 - 32768), you can also simply click 'partition' and select the partition.

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I know that because I have sorted everything by years.
Since it is a spanned volume, the 1st drive is being written 1st,


While in general this is true, data is written towards start of volume as rule of thumb, it's not something you can take for granted. This volume has about 35% free space, see how data is actually spread out:

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:54 
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Yes, but it was a 12TB volume and filled with around 7,5tb of data
so if I do not see the files from the last couple of years it is logical that they are in the second drive

Also, if I attach only 1st drive I have the same result as when I attach both so the files from this 2nd drive are missing


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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
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My bad, 7814037134 is last sector. So should be, so offset: 32768, end: 7814037134, number sectors: (7814037134 - 32768)


I did that few posts before with the same efect.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 7:58 
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Okay, select the 2nd drive you're adding to the JBOD, so just that one disk, click advanced, it opens hex view. Scroll through it, does it show data? Enough to add up to 3.5 TB? Estimate it, 3 out of every 4 sectors should contain data in that case.

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 8:03 
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Yes, it is nearly full of data

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 8:16 
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Okay, then try .. Make the JBOD like before (offset: 32768, end: 7814037134, number sectors: (7814037134 - 32768), you can also simply click 'partition' and select the 4 TB partition). Select the Archive partition like before. Click 'all found / virtual file system' > pure FS.

If you still don't see files then ..

Click meta data folder and select MFT > right click it > Open entry > expand Data attribute (see pic) and post screenshot please.

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 8:27 
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When it was doing it, it said multiple times "Error reading MFT # "
Files are still non-visible
I'm including this MFT entry

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
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Also, when I look at MFT between LUN#0 and #1, on LUN#0 it shows file names etc.
However, on the LUN#1, it's not

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 Post subject: Re: Help me assembly JBOD/spanned in DMDE with missing drive
PostPosted: October 29th, 2023, 8:35 
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Avenge7058 wrote:
When it was doing it


Doing what exactly?

Oh and, what happend to 3rd disk anyway? It failed you said, but how exactly, is it dead?

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