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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 4th, 2023, 5:42 
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valeryM2006 wrote:
I read this correspondence. And it didn't cause anything but a smile on my face. :)

Many of you use this forum to promote some software. Then write your own cases or advice on recovering data from an XFS disk in response to my question. Convince me and those who will read this topic that you are right: that your software can help in this situation, or offer your solution. Perhaps readers will learn something new and find something useful on this topic.

Instead, you write anything other than what was asked. Looking for tricks in every word. You are looking for information about the author all over the Internet.

You say that I am trying to make idiots of you: but I get the opposite impression.
What is the point of a forum where discussion is impossible?

What was so spammy that I wrote? Wrote a program name other than the one you are promoting? I did not put any links and did not encourage anyone to buy anything! And many of you have done just that.

I wrote to the administrator of this forum with a request to delete this topic. I hope he satisfies it.


От непотрібно хитрожопити як москалі, і тоді все буде гаразд. Якщо в тебе є що запропонувати, то описуй це згідно правил цього форума. Тут нікому не давали змоги піарити в тупу свій софт. Інакше тут було б вже куча лінків на кучу різних сайтів. Якщо у користувачів будуть питання, от і відповідай. І так, можна порадити свій софт, якщо він реально підходить (але знову таки без лінків). І треба зважати на рівень людей, що тут пишуть, а не пропонувати рішення для чайників.


Друже, ну от ти не можеш без образ... москалі, в тупу, для чайників... Ця стрічка зайшла в глухий кут. Я згоден, що неправильно оцінив рівень даного форуму, за що отримав відповідний фідбек. Але погодься, що якби не переходити на особистості, то ця стрічка могла б вилитися в цікавий діалог. А в результаті з мене зробили ледь не спамер-бота, який ходить по всьому Інтернету і агітує купувати лайно-софт.
А я, можливо, просто хотів запропонувати людям альтернативу вже всім відомим рішенням. Наголошую - запропонувати.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 4th, 2023, 9:42 
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valeryM2006 wrote:
I read this correspondence. And it didn't cause anything but a smile on my face. :)

Many of you use this forum to promote some software. Then write your own cases or advice on recovering data from an XFS disk in response to my question. Convince me and those who will read this topic that you are right: that your software can help in this situation, or offer your solution. Perhaps readers will learn something new and find something useful on this topic.

Instead, you write anything other than what was asked. Looking for tricks in every word. You are looking for information about the author all over the Internet.

You say that I am trying to make idiots of you: but I get the opposite impression.
What is the point of a forum where discussion is impossible?

What was so spammy that I wrote? Wrote a program name other than the one you are promoting? I did not put any links and did not encourage anyone to buy anything! And many of you have done just that.

I wrote to the administrator of this forum with a request to delete this topic. I hope he satisfies it.


Nice try but that's not what happened. You pretended to be just another Joe looking for software while in fact you were setting up to introduce your own software.

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I read this correspondence. And it didn't cause anything but a smile on my face. :)


That's what not so smart people tend to do when they get caught.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 4th, 2023, 10:03 
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Arch Stanton wrote:
Nice try but that's not what happened. You pretended to be just another Joe looking for software while in fact you were setting up to introduce your own software.

And you're here for altruistic reasons, aren't you? And disktuna.com is a free service for everyone?
Or is it paid? And this forum is just a tool for its promotion?

Arch Stanton wrote:
That's what not so smart people tend to do when they get caught.

Not very smart people usually write messages like this.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 5th, 2023, 10:50 
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You are missing the point. No one has an issue with people promoting data recovery software. You quote Joep from DiskTuna as an example. He puts a huge amount of time and effort into helping people on this and other forums. He does this free of charge and offers sound advice. Yes of course he gets promotion for his product in his signature in return. But that the point 'in return'. It's the way you do it that pisses people off. Pretending to be someone who needs help then promoting your own software is just bad form.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 5th, 2023, 18:35 
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valeryM2006 wrote:

Not very smart people usually write messages like this.


Yes, apparently. Keep digging, Valery.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: December 6th, 2023, 2:46 
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ddrecovery wrote:
You are missing the point. No one has an issue with people promoting data recovery software. You quote Joep from DiskTuna as an example. He puts a huge amount of time and effort into helping people on this and other forums. He does this free of charge and offers sound advice. Yes of course he gets promotion for his product in his signature in return. But that the point 'in return'. It's the way you do it that pisses people off. Pretending to be someone who needs help then promoting your own software is just bad form.


Thank you for your kind reply.
I understand.
I did not make any claims to anyone and did not allow myself to offend anyone - the first. All my tactless posts, just a reply to the same ones.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 17th, 2024, 19:09 
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<sigh>

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/recover-the-hard-drive.2617019/post-41139644

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 17th, 2024, 19:16 
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:abuse: :abuse: :abuse: :abuse: :abuse:

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2024, 3:43 
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fzabkar wrote:

I have nothing to do with the topic on the forum you indicated. If that's what you meant...

Here is my topic about testing of RAID Data Recovery Software: https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=43909
If you are interested, you can participate.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2024, 7:37 
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And they suck at it, lol. Posting same disk management screenshot that's used in the Hetman video, hilarious!!

Seems mods deleted the threads now.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2024, 13:40 
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Here he is again:

https://www.techsupportforum.com/threads/problem-with-the-hard-drive.1259647/

He's posting the same screenshot from Hetman's demo video.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: January 18th, 2024, 14:11 
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This is the same screenshot (also the same as in that Anandtech thread):

https://www.diskpart.com/articles/how-to-format-ssd-in-windows-11-3690.html
https://www.diskpart.com/screenshot/en/others/windows-10/raw-format.png

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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: May 9th, 2024, 10:40 
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I don't understand why you made such conclusions?


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: September 3rd, 2026, 5:49 
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Hello everyone,

My name is Mykhailo Miroshnychenko. I am the owner and head of Hetman Software.

I recently reviewed this thread again, as well as the earlier discussion that caused the negative reaction from the community.

The post in question was created by an employee of our company as part of our SEO and marketing work. The way it was presented could make it appear that the recommendation came from an independent user.

That was wrong.

I take personal responsibility for this approach to promotion. At the time, I was generally aware that our company was doing promotional work on relevant technical forums, but I only had a high-level understanding of how it was being carried out. I expected it to be done in a different and more transparent way.

Nevertheless, as the owner of Hetman Software, it was my responsibility to make sure that our company was represented properly, and I accept responsibility for not paying enough attention to how this work was being done.

I understand now that the criticism here was primarily about the method used to promote the software, not about the technical quality of the product itself.

I also understand that instead of simply acknowledging this at the time, our replies became defensive and only made the situation worse.

For that, I would like to sincerely apologize to the HDDGuru community.

I am not going to justify that approach or argue about whether it should be called spam, advertising, or something else. It should not have been done that way.

I am also relatively new to this forum myself, so I would genuinely appreciate some guidance from long-time members about what is considered acceptable here and what is not.

For example, is it acceptable for a software developer or company representative to participate in relevant technical discussions and, when appropriate, suggest trying our software as one possible solution, provided that we clearly identify ourselves as the developer?

Is it acceptable to post information about new versions, supported technologies, technical improvements, or new functionality in an appropriate software-related thread?

Are there particular sections of the forum where such posts are appropriate, or any conventions that vendors and software developers are expected to follow?

I would rather understand the community rules and follow them than repeat the mistakes that caused this discussion in the first place.

Again, I apologize to the community.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Read a XFS disk in Windows?
PostPosted: September 3rd, 2026, 14:30 
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hetmansoftware wrote:
Are there particular sections of the forum where such posts are appropriate, or any conventions that vendors and software developers are expected to follow?

You can post product announcements here:

Software and hardware tools:
https://forum.hddguru.com/viewforum.php?f=7

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