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 Post subject: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partition
PostPosted: June 5th, 2024, 6:27 
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Hi

Finally decided to post about this drive here. Its an Seagate ST3802110A certified repaired HDD (Barracuda 7200.9 80GB IDE). After starting, the heads click for around 4 seconds, then stop and so on. Disk is seen by BIOS and Windows, but I can't do anything with it. Formatting the RAW partition (and trying to set a new partition) hangs disk management. SMART shows around 10k reallocated sectors, HDTUNE shows bad sectors in a repeating pattern. Pressing on the PCB I can sometimes reset the drive. Any ideas if this drive can be saved to somewhat usable state? I know the 7200 series and above drives are total garbage, but I don't want to get of it now.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: June 5th, 2024, 14:49 
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no point putting any efforts in this drive, the unit itself does not worth wasting any time on it. Save it for parts, if any.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: July 20th, 2024, 5:22 
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Since I finally got a high quality TTL adaptor I decided to give this drive a shot (I need some IDE drives since I only got 10GB ones and they are kinda expensive where I live). After initializing, i get the following errors (Add To Pending and LBA changes, so from my understanding the drive generates bad sectors)
CE Log ErrCode=37 LBA=18757 Type=5 Add To Pending 18757
AT Er 00 Nwt Er 37 RdWr 00019.00.027c
ATA St 58 Er 00 Op 25 e, 0000800,2000 0200 0000
Niwot: 00000800 3a 00000800.0.000 8000 0c91 0340 0000
DiskAccess ReadSector EC=43 at 000019.00.0277

CE Log ErrCode=37 LBA=81e Type=5 Add To Pending 81e
AT Er 00 Nwt Er 37 RdWr ffffffff.00.00e7
ATA St d0 Er 40 Op 25 e, 0000800,2000 0000 0000
Niwot: 000162bc 58 000162bc.0.0e6 0001 0fe0 0001 0000
AT Er 00 Nwt Er 37 RdWr 0005d.00.001c
ATA St 50 Er 00 Op b0 a,c24f/0/01,01 00 d0
Niwot: 97f29ff7 b6 97f29ff7.0.c94 0000 005f 0000 0000
DiskAccess ReadSector EC=43 at 00005d.00.001c
I can get to the different levels, but I'm getting "Command Inactive - No VALID Cert Code Detected" errors when I type some commands eg. V40 on T> prompt or N1 on 2>prompt. Any ideas how to make the bad sector checks stop? Also, I was wrong about 10k reallocated sector count. Its 1434 on SMART 05 and 1393 on both C5 and C6.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: July 20th, 2024, 14:39 
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This HDD is not an F3 architecture! (F3 >= 7200.11)
Fly swatter techniques from the Internet are not suitable!
If you want to fix it, study self-scans of classic barracudas.
If you need data, give the HDD to a DR specialist.
Error processing for them is disabled by editing the APP.
Cert is loading Ctrl R ...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: July 21st, 2024, 7:39 
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Cert have been loaded by CTRL+R. Although now I'm getting "CE Log ErrCode=43 LBA=102 Type=6Not handled software path:" errors after some time. Also forgot to mention there are just bad blocks everywhere on the scan and errors:
13:19:22 : Starting Reading, LBA=0..156301487, sequential access, timeout 10000ms
13:19:56 : Block 0 Error #1E3
13:21:40 : Block 256 Error #79
13:23:24 : Block 512 Error #79
13:25:08 : Block 768 Error #79
13:26:52 : Block 1024 Error #79
13:28:36 : Block 1280 Error #79
13:11:59 : Model: ST250LM004 HN-M250MBB; Capacity: 488397168 LBAs; SN: S2T0J9AC501730; FW: 2AR10002
13:30:20 : Block 1536 Error #79
13:32:04 : Block 1792 Error #79
Didin't bother running the scan in victoria as it was just taking so long. I think its just too far gone at this point...
SWM wrote:
This HDD is not an F3 architecture! (F3 >= 7200.11)
If you want to fix it, study self-scans of classic barracudas.
If you need data, give the HDD to a DR specialist.
Error processing for them is disabled by editing the APP.

Mind sending me some links to the self-scan docs and how to edit the APP? Couldn't find anything about pre F3 ARCH drive commands and the APP. Theres no data on it, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: July 21st, 2024, 9:10 
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There is already a lot of information in the topic header.
And in the very topic in the first parts.
http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?for ... pic=5614#1
https://forum-ru--board-com.translate.g ... pto=wapp#1
https://forum-ru--board-com.translate.g ... pto=wapp#1

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Documentation on Seagate Terminal commands, etc.  [?]
I advise you to read it for those who are going to repair / use selfie on 7200.7-7200.10
Seagate terminal: let's chat?
An extended excursion into what is what
Seagate Diagnostic RS-232 Port
PC-3000 Support / Documents
Barracuda Documentation from HRT
Diag_Command_Barracuda

PC-3000 part 1
PC-3000 part 2
Description of Self Scan 7200.X tests  [?]
SA objects Seagate 7200.X  [?]


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: August 8th, 2024, 9:15 
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SWM wrote:
There is already a lot of information in the topic header.
And in the very topic in the first parts.
http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?for ... pic=5614#1
https://forum-ru--board-com.translate.g ... pto=wapp#1
https://forum-ru--board-com.translate.g ... pto=wapp#1

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Documentation on Seagate Terminal commands, etc.  [?]
I advise you to read it for those who are going to repair / use selfie on 7200.7-7200.10
Seagate terminal: let's chat?
An extended excursion into what is what
Seagate Diagnostic RS-232 Port
PC-3000 Support / Documents
Barracuda Documentation from HRT
Diag_Command_Barracuda

PC-3000 part 1
PC-3000 part 2
Description of Self Scan 7200.X tests  [?]
SA objects Seagate 7200.X  [?]

Can the same be applied to an momentus 7200.2 which has the same issue as this barracuda?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate ST3802110A - clicking and cannot set new partiti
PostPosted: August 8th, 2024, 10:09 
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kotel wrote:
Can the same be applied to an momentus 7200.2 which has the same issue as this barracuda?

Although, smart says this one is "BAD", so I think its just a goner. Whats weird is on this drive HDD regenerator accually tries to regen bad sectors while on the IDE seagate it just says drive not ready.


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