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 Post subject: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 7th, 2024, 10:25 
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Hello,

Many of you are non-familiar that they can purchase pinout for NAND technological pads if they are not able to find one (for example SD protocol is completly dead so not possible to use LA etc). If you got such case we want to offer you service where you can have one fast and easy - check our https://multi-com.eu/,browse,id_gr,1998,key,nand-pinouts.html

On this page you will find at the moment two category:
microSD - https://multi-com.eu/,browse,id_gr,1999,key,micro-sd-pinout.html
UFD - https://multi-com.eu/,browse,id_gr,2000,key,ufd-usb-pinout.html

Most of those pinouts are unique - not available in any public flash solutions like Pc3K, VNR. Each of those was created by us, verified - you can find there not only simple one but problematic one with second leyer signal etc..

more are cooming ;) We soon plan to add option for SD ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 7th, 2024, 11:10 
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Great information. Thanks for posting.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 7th, 2024, 11:36 
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We got many of them (almost 100 unique ) still not addedd so if anybody got a card which pinout are still not listed on page drop me a e-mail to technika@multi-com.pl and I will check if we got in our database and then we can add faster to page ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 7th, 2024, 14:29 
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One question. Are all these pinouts supported by PC-3000, VNR or FE? Or are some pinouts there is no controller solution for yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
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Would be useful to identify the brand / model of the device and the tiny images aren't the easiest to see.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 7th, 2024, 17:20 
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ddrecovery wrote:
One question. Are all these pinouts supported by PC-3000, VNR or FE? Or are some pinouts there is no controller solution for yet?

These are only pinouts, we did not collect data on whether a given case could be done or not, but most cases were done.


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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
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Lardman wrote:
Would be useful to identify the brand / model of the device and the tiny images aren't the easiest to see.

You're right, the images aren't the easiest to see - although each can be enlarged. Maybe we will prepare a package with large images for download.


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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 11th, 2024, 13:18 
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Answering for the question, yes I know, but the pricetag is killing any business.

I understand that creating pinout requires work and this costs, I have huge respect for the amount of work you have put into creating whole your databases. But when I had tried to do business plan for DR company, the cost of single pinout sometimes reach 50% of total cost of service some other companies are offering for whole job. It is sometimes more profitable to outsource the work and get 10-20% commision then pay for 50% pinout and this is just starting point for all the work.

Buying pinout is of course a kind of investment for a company, but with this huge amount of different cards on the market buying pinout for single job it might be not profitable at all. I wonder who can afford for that these day.


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okton wrote:
Answering for the question, yes I know, but the pricetag is killing any business.

I understand that creating pinout requires work and this costs, I have huge respect for the amount of work you have put into creating whole your databases. But when I had tried to do business plan for DR company, the cost of single pinout sometimes reach 50% of total cost of service some other companies are offering for whole job. It is sometimes more profitable to outsource the work and get 10-20% commision then pay for 50% pinout and this is just starting point for all the work.

Buying pinout is of course a kind of investment for a company, but with this huge amount of different cards on the market buying pinout for single job it might be not profitable at all. I wonder who can afford for that these day.

These pinouts are for established data recovery companies who have already invested time (years) and money into buying professional flash recovery hardware and software. We are doing flash drive recoveries everyday. These are just add-ons to the databases we already have. So paying a relatively small amount for a pinout, as opposed to spending hours working it out with a logic Analyzer makes perfect sense (even if it is hit and miss with controllers).

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I had tried to do business plan for DR company, the cost of single pinout sometimes reach 50% of total cost of service some other companies are offering for whole job.


The same argument can be made regarding any tech support from the tool providers, the price of which greatly exceeds any single case. You need volume to make flash recovery profitable or you offer it as a loss leader to complete your service profile. The trend for larger capacity drives also provides better opportunity to recover some of those costs.

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 Post subject: Re: Did you know that you can buy NAND pinouts ???
PostPosted: November 12th, 2024, 12:35 
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As requested - we uplaoded a 600 pix photos database of actuall pinouts at http://mc1234.webd.pl/recovery/MC%20pin ... 1.2024.rar

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PostPosted: November 12th, 2024, 15:19 
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There's of course https://flash-matrix.com/

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