And thank you @fzabkar for your previous response.
This is who you are, this is what you do, anyone who asks something here, you immediately pull out all the answers for him without any personal interest.

And to the person who said here that he sends this kind of work to others and presented it as proof (just without facts) that such a thing has been done in the past, I say:
The data you receive after the recovery, neither you nor the clients you refer, have any idea whether it was recovered from the outside before the scratch or from the inside beyond the scratch.
You don't even know if it was recovered from the scratched platter surface itself or just recovered from the platters adjacent to the scratched platter.
There is a huge difference between recovering from the adjacent platters to the scratched platter, which can be done without special equipment beyond the standard, and between the complexity of developing a precise product that interfaces with the reading head, which is extremely sensitive and will prove itself in real field conditions with the ability to reach every part of the scratched platter itself and recover the data.



From now on, anyone who tries to say here that what I do can be done by him or can be done by others and is not adding a fact, he would knew he was damaging his own reputation.

And for people who enter this thread and are still hesitating whose claims are justified, I will explain why my demand for proof is so legitimate:

There is no such precedent in any field, for a person or company to develop a product for the purpose of marketing it service to the public, and not to present the product itself or the capabilities of the product.

To develop a rare product, market it to the public, and not present the product or its capabilities, this is even more unreasonable.

So there's no reason for people here to be above the norm, and with all the respect, it doesn't matter how many years you've been in the field or if you've been able to solve other data recovery problems.


The Gillware company presenting their product to the public as expected from any developer, that's at least something, now that the customer has the information, he can decide if he want to try this cleaning method.
With this technology, the read head will still have to confront the scratch, it is possible that on very small scratches the read head will survive one or two passes.
I presented the capabilities of my product in action in the field, which is the determining thing in the end, in my product, the read head can pass over a crater on the platter many times and without damage.

AIUI, your company did not exist prior to April of this year. Therefore people would be wondering what it is that you do, or have been doing, in the past. That's your first hurdle.

The fly height of a disc head is less than 4 nanometres. That's the average distance between two molecules of air, yet you say that "in my product, the read head can pass over a crater on the platter many times and without damage". That would be like a jumbo jet smashing into Mt Everest. Can you not see why nobody believes you? Or is it that when you refer to "craters", you do actually mean depressions rather than raised scratches? Do you actually "burnish" or micro-polish the scratches? About 35 years ago I paid to have some sensitive equipment micro-polished, so I know that it's not out of reach of the general public.

At any rate, your claims are lacking verifiable evidence (videos can be staged). Until you can provide convincing results, people can be forgiven for thinking that you may be another Uri Geller.

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Maybe the fact that the video hardly use 10% of available space is done to obfuscate this.



The video is so poor that in effect this applies to you and your video.

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1. I don't see how what I did before April is related to the capability of my product, everything that is developed, it didn't exist before.

2. Saying that a video is staged without giving a professional explanation why, when there are too many details in it that indicate that it is not staged, shows an attempt at evasion, an inability to compete fairly.
Because of a few staged videos posted online, disqualifying millions of videos that are authentic is illogical, disproportionate, and unjustified.

3. Wikipedia explanation of the word crater "crater is a landform consisting of a hole or depression on a planetary surface, usually caused either by an object hitting the surface, or by geological activity on the planet. A crater has classically been described as: a bowl-shaped pit that is formed by a volcano, an explosion, or a meteorite impact.

Hope things are clear now.

By the way if anyone here thinks that by making false claims you will get me to show the product, it will not be,although I was seriously considering sharing this.

Regarding the video, it's very simple:
For a manufacturer or developer to presenting the product's capabilities or the product itself to the public is a must!
Not showing a video because a small number of people will say it's staged is stupid, there is still a large part of the public that will be honestly impressed and is interested in the presentation.

So one moment you will praise someone, the next you'll accuse him of something he didn't do or say.

From this: "And thank you @fzabkar for your previous response.
This is who you are, this is what you do, anyone who asks something here, you immediately pull out all the answers for him without any personal interest." to this: "Saying that a video is staged without giving a professional explanation". fzabkar never said your video is staged, he just says video evidence alone isn't very convincing as video can be staged, specially when claiming ground-braking accomplishments.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your poor quality video fails to meet the Sagan standard.

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What nonsense, it came out like this after I added the caption in the software.
Download it to your computer, one setting in the video player and the whole screen is the content.

This is a you-problem.



It's in portrait mode, so no.

IOW, you supposedly have a ground breaking achievement to share but can not be bothered to present a decent video.

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What's the problem with that? I agreed with the facts he stated and disagreed with some of his interpretations, and I also explained why.


I really don't know why, I wanted people to download it, in video downloader software it downloads perfectly at maximum resolution.


If I were selling a product and I was obligated to provide instructions, I would do so until everyone knew how to use the product, but this video is not supposed to be a tutorial, but just a presentation on a product that does the job.

I didn't say that your video was staged. All I said was that videos can be staged, so they cannot be regarded as conclusive evidence on their own. You are an unknown quantity who is making a fantastic claim that challenges accepted tenets, so people are understandably suspicious.

What would convince the unbelievers would be if a respected and well-known member of the data recovery community were to assess a crashed drive as unrecoverable, send it to you, and you would then return the recovered data. I think if you were to do that, you would establish your credibility and more work would flow your way.

BTW, I did watch your video in May (?), but I haven't been able to access it again since. However, I have to agree with AS -- the quality, as I remember it, was poor.

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I didn't say and I didn't mean to say he said, I said that if manufacturers, developers, or just a potential competitor uses this argument to not make a video then...
I don't understand what's unclear here.
Which is better, 95% proof or 0% proof

I'm not saying that you shouldn't make a video. Of course you should. All I'm saying is that you need to back it up with additional evidence that your peers can validate for themselves. Uri Geller bends spoons on camera, but how many people here would believe his claims?

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You mean he really doesn't bend spoons....

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Believe me, I wanted to do this instead of the video, but in the end I thought it was too cumbersome and video was better.
But this is quite unfair, "were to assess a crashed drive as unrecoverable" I have not stated anywhere that I have 100% success in recovering drives that are defined as unrecoverable, on the contrary, I haven't accumulated enough information yet to provide statistics, this is a new product.
What I said is that I have the technology that allows me to make heads to skip over all types of scratches without damage.
As for success, it depends on how much healthy surface remains on SA, if it possible to extract a very small portion of the firmware necessary for the job.
If I have it, and there are areas without scratches and no one has spilled anything on the platters, then with my equipment, the read head will reach every area on the scratched disk and recover all the data where there are no bad sectors.
What I was thinking was that someone would write information on the inside of a platter on a multi-platter disk, then make a huge scratch, send it to me, and I would tell them what was on there.
He also doesn't have to send the entire disk, just a single platter and its firmware.
If it's encrypted with SED so send it along with the PCB.
But now after what I've had to go through here and all the hostility, and all the ridiculous claims, I don't trust anyone here and this forum doesn't interest me anymore, I no longer care whether people here believe me or not, I'm also not looking for a lot of work in the field at all, I have other much more significant things to do and I've said that all along.
Engaging in the forum wasted a lot of valuable time, preventing me from concentrating on my work.
And what I've already realized is that the real world of data recovery is not in this forum.

This is you, it's describing you. You decided to make anyone who commented the enemy.

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last month i had a hubble drive with a ring on bottom surface (OD).


without intending to prove anything, just FYI.
pepe

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That's not what's happening, is it? "This is who you are, this is what you do, anyone who asks something here, you immediately pull out all the answers for him without any personal interest." is more than just being in agreement on a specific matter. And then you later didn't simply disagree, you misinterpreted fzabkar and made accusations which you based on the misrepresentation.

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