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 Post subject: Seagate 250GB - Spindle is frozen solid
PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 1:39 
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In my homemade clean room, I opened my Seagate Baacuda 700.8 250GB drive, and the platters wouldn't spin at all, completely frozen, with no give. I thought it might be head stiction, but the head stack seems to move a little bit (Not completely, but I'm guessing it locks somehow when parked, and I didn't want to move the heads across the platter surfaces.)

Could this be somthing other than the bearing? If not, is there a way to 're-oil' the bearing, or unfreeze it long enough for me to get some data off? What is the 'fluid' thie use in a FDB?


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 6:08 
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hi re-oil is not possible with this type of hdd. It's bearings are shattered internaly and completely stuck. The only way is to remove the platters to a good hdd, but alignment is the biggest issue, success rate is slim.


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 11:51 
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Hi,

I would like to argue :)
recently I had a similar drive its owner dropped, bearing badly stuck.
I drilled, 'oiled', rotated, recovered the data.
The platter swap may be good, but risky. What if U cannot get them well centered afterwards...?
pepe


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 21:22 
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hi Pepe

Drilling is also risky, as the drilling process creates vibration which may or may not damage the head as you know the cap is a really solid stainless steel, to peel off the cap is not easy, i guess its just luck.....but sometimes lucks in data recovery works.... :D


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Yes, I was concerned about drilling too, mainly for the small chips that would break loos, do do such wonders for a close tolerance bearing :)

I was contemplating a small hammer, as well as heat on the stainless cap,but I suppose drilling might be best. Has anyone had bad results from drilling?

Also, is the fluid in the bearing very thin? If I removed the cap completely, would it pour out, and be like running a car with no oil? Would it stay in like a thick grease?


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PostPosted: March 31st, 2007, 2:16 
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rchadwick wrote:
Yes, I was concerned about drilling too, mainly for the small chips that would break loos, do do such wonders for a close tolerance bearing :)

I was contemplating a small hammer, as well as heat on the stainless cap,but I suppose drilling might be best. Has anyone had bad results from drilling?

Also, is the fluid in the bearing very thin? If I removed the cap completely, would it pour out, and be like running a car with no oil? Would it stay in like a thick grease?


I did the "grinding" not "drilling". Yes it's very dangerous. Sometimes the depth of grinding (about 0.5-1 mm) to find the bearing caps is the biggest issue to resolve. My result : 3 works, 7 fails...

I think I really really need a lot of practice and example from various models. It's very difficult indeed.
Using small hammer (rubber made...) ----> never try it out...
Haeting the stainless stell caps ? Oh, no....I think too dangerous....You will be in a lot of trouble if can not find the right temperature to do so ...
The grease will not pour. It will stay inside the bearing housing...


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