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 Post subject: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 3:58 
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Greetings!!!

REcently i had probe with my hard disk. My windows got corrupt with the error message
the registry can not load the hive file..

And when i tried to repiar windows .. it got hanged.. and now my hard disk doesnot detect C: drive.. and when i click on ther partitions it says drive not format do yu want to? ...

Please help, tell me which is the best repair or recovery software available.

thanks in advance

REgds
Saurabh


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 6:43 
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An expert near you. If the drive is phisically failed, a data recovery expert. If data is not important, a new drive.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 11:36 
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I agree. To ask what's the best software available is like saying "My car won't run. What's the best tool I can get to fix it?" It all depends on what's wrong. If you have some experience, you might be able to determine if you can fix it. However, without experience, anything you do runs the risk of damaging your data permanently. Data recovery is NOT an easy thing to do. Some jobs might be easy, but it takes experience even to recognize those.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 12:29 
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Shorter : the solution is in your wallet. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 14:34 
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RC are the analogys reserved for dr work, with all the people you meet. They just can't seem to understand what your conversing, without you using analogys ?
Or do you also use them all the time, even away from work.

How much profit is made, when not using analogys vs using them ?

Is it like saying to others look your an idiot, here it is in simple simon terms. Much like trying to teach a village idiot, such an impossible task.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 14:43 
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Pretty much. An analogy is a tool I use to convert something most don't understand into something most can understand. If I went to my accountant, I'd rather he use analogies so I understand him, instead of a bunch of mumbo-jumbo I don't understand. And no, I wouldn't be the least bit insulted.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 15:26 
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I have done the same in similar situations (garage mechanics). I tell them to speak to me in laymans terms, then i understood them.

Is there money in using analogy vs non analogy ?

Use analogys do you get many returning customers, with other failed drives ?

With treating customers like idiots, does it really work for future dr sales.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 15th, 2008, 16:11 
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It's an odd way to put it, but I'd say Yes, there is money in analogies. I've been in a number of technical fields, and when I speak with non-techie types (Usually customers), I speak in a way they can understand. I have never had a complaint, but have heard many times they truly appreciate the way I speak to them, as opposed to those who use the big technical words average people don't understand. Being uninformed on a specific topic is vastly different from being an idiot.

As for repeat customers, I'm a lousy businessman. I think it's better to have a customer once, and be sure they understand the concept of backups.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 16th, 2008, 19:53 
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You know yourself, you know your limits a 'lousy businessman' which is a good thing to know for you. So no money in it, but useful only to let others understand what you are saying. If cannot speak in laymans terms speak in analogies, i see.

A few years ago now, i knew a friend who always replied technicaly then backed that up with an analogy. No matter how many times i told him it wasn't needed it was always the same. Now that was annoying, as he understood everything i said and i did from him. It was the analogies that really broke up us being friends, i just couldn't cope with an answer follwed by an idiot guide to the same answer grrrr.

Now i sit here thinking, how easy it isn't to speak in laymans terms about dr. Because many people have never seen inside a hard drive. Or even had one open in their hands to know what is inside. Maybe it's needed to have a forum sticky or similar for dr abreviations and terms that the forum highlights each time one is mentioned. That links back to the sticky which explains the abreviation in more detail, maybe in a blue used for the highlighting.

A better idea just occured with using non javascript, the most secure and friendly web page language.

For each technical term wriiten (highlighted by the forum). The reader hovers over the abreviations or term with their mouse. The forum automatically pops up with a short description of what that term means. Not a popup balloon neither a javascripted baloon, a small baloon that all browsers will see, even if the browsers are popup and scripting blocked. That i think would help on a forum like this, where talk is mostly technical.

Where the pursing reader is needing to quickly understand more, to solve their drive problem. Dimitry (maysoft) might like this idea enough to implement it, i'm sure it will help the forum dr helpers. Together with a forum sticky covering more in depth, of each technical term. For readers to know the meanings, to further help, those seeking drive help, understand more.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 17th, 2008, 1:55 
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The trouble is that when common people get a simple headache, they want the best neurosurgeon available and when serious problems occur to a hdd, even with valuable data inside, they call - and let put hands on- their friends, the tech nerd upstairs, the pharmacist (who knows?), Joe Piper...


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 17th, 2008, 8:25 
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Its a matter of value or the personal feeling for a value. (lacking words to express it better).

Why should one care about data? Computers are cheap, Laptops are very cheap nowadays,
why should DR be expensive?

As long as a customer does not feel the value of his (missing) data it has no value.


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 Post subject: Re: which software will help ?
PostPosted: September 17th, 2008, 13:42 
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falther wrote:
As long as a customer does not feel the value of his (missing) data it has no value.

That's a good statement falther, and what it is all about. True the value of hardware is cheap becuse its mass produced. Mass producing gives way to little longevity of products. Which is why with most things now have just one year warranty. It is called a throw away consumables, when it goes throw it away.

With data it is personel to that person and essential for companies to retain/guard. There will always be a need for dr even with ssd, nothing is perfect. I don't see dr cost reduce. Unless some new players enters with a global supermarket type setup. That do good dr at bargain prices, very surprised if it ever happened globaly.


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