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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 10:26 
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Holy wars :)
They both (Ace and SD) didn't do research on .11 drives.
Half a year ago only SRS were able to fix the problems, three month ago half of Russian DR gurus were able to fix the problems (I beleive the same with Chinese DR gurus). And ~month ago SD and ACE were able to fix the problems (what a coincidence :) )

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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Strange how the only company able to fix these dodgy Seagate hard drives 6 months ago were Seagate Recovery Services. Anyone else think this is strange? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 10:31 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
Strange how the only company able to fix these dodgy Seagate hard drives 6 months ago were Seagate Recovery Services. Anyone else think this is strange? :roll:


Clearly they have access to some insider information :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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There is no strangeness in this
SRS just the best :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 10:40 
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Seagate. The best company at Data Recovery. Shame about the quality of their latest hard drives. Maybe some of the larger data recovery companies will seek revenge by manufacturing better hard drives. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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HDD Spaz wrote:
Seagate. The best company at Data Recovery. :lol:


I have doubts about that statement.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 17:41 
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I think Doomer would admit if he knows correct that others cracked it before SRS.. AFAIK SRS don't have access to everything but some ;o)


And my best wishes to people in India tonight :O( it is becoming one big SH1T world

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 18:52 
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Hi guru,

Doomer wrote
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They both (Ace and SD) didn't do research on .11 drives.

I think (no doubt) he knows.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 20:02 
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Doomer wrote:
Holy wars :)
They both (Ace and SD) didn't do research on .11 drives.
Half a year ago only SRS were able to fix the problems, three month ago half of Russian DR gurus were able to fix the problems (I beleive the same with Chinese DR gurus). And ~month ago SD and ACE were able to fix the problems (what a coincidence :) )


I am no wondering on this.

Both company works on new projects in the first task, and the resources are limited.
The only one case, like 7200.11 is not too important, to take extra attention....

;)

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 26th, 2008, 20:17 
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Milk the customer for everything they got before the fix leaks out, that's the Seagate way. You'd be a fool to buy a Seagate these days. Anyone who has tried to open their FreeAgent plastic clip crap drives knows what I'm talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 27th, 2008, 4:30 
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Yes this whole episode stinks.
Seagate Recovery Services must have known what the problem was for many months.
Seagate drive manufacturing R&D must also have had the knowledge for at least the same amount of time. I wonder which of the two was first?
One would of thought a fix would have been provided by Seagate (maybe even to end users) but obviously there were comercial reasons why that never happened.
I just hope the press pick up on this and make public what went on.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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thatdellguy wrote:
Anyone who has tried to open their FreeAgent plastic clip crap drives knows what I'm talking about.


lol too right :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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Milk the customer for everything they got before the fix leaks out, that's the Seagate way. You'd be a fool to buy a Seagate these days. Anyone who has tried to open their FreeAgent plastic clip crap drives knows what I'm talking about.


Not much is worse to open than a MyBook. That honor belongs to Freeagent (spawn of hell).


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 27th, 2008, 11:42 
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in reality I do not think that Seagate did it on purpose... The money they make from Seagate recovery services would not make even a fraction of a dent into Seagates profit overall.. Also the loss in revenue from having to do RMA's would have been great..

Just a glich nothing done on purpose

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 27th, 2008, 12:41 
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I just got Salvationdata upgrade for free and always free, even they spend a lot of time and effort but is free for owner, how is ACE Lab,

can anybody get free upgrade from ACE Lab, even you just bought less then six month.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 27th, 2008, 23:01 
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Doomer wrote:
Holy wars :)
They both (Ace and SD) didn't do research on .11 drives.
Half a year ago only SRS were able to fix the problems, three month ago half of Russian DR gurus were able to fix the problems (I beleive the same with Chinese DR gurus). And ~month ago SD and ACE were able to fix the problems (what a coincidence :) )

SRS - the best


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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If you do some research, assuming you have time and resources, you can. Of course, having access to eng data makes TTM/TTR shorter...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
PostPosted: November 28th, 2008, 10:00 
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Does the Salvation 7200.11 fix work?

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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scratchy wrote:
Does the Salvation 7200.11 fix work?

<itch>


Send me one and I'll tell you :)

I also have thoughts of putting something in between the serial transmitter and the drive to listen to what the fix is.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11 Issue
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SRS got help and solution both from seagate thats the biggest benefit of u being the best .


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