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salvationlaura
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 8:32 
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BlackST,

Impressive Remarks!

The real pros will survive and grow. I agree that most cases to pros' hand are the physical problems.

If it is only deleted files, format, clone. PC users can download some software from internet at the cost of XX bucks.

That makes sense the the Data Recovery will be luxury. Maybe it is same like the top surgeon who only appear at the last second when the death put their hand on the patient?

So we can take these as example:

Logical Data Recovery Program----Drug Store
Bad Sectors/FW courrutpion can be handled at-----Clinic
Physical Damage Recovery should go to-----Hospital

That sounds very effective and reasonable.

Let's make the network!

Regards

Laura
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Listen : 80% and up of the problems on the drives are physical. So what? Common practitioners can give you a pill and the cost is low, a real skilled surgeon can fix something more complicated but the cost is MUCH HIGHER. Period. I'm not afraid of the crisis, it has beneficial effects on the "desperados" that enter a market spoiling it with low prices and few results. Periodical crisis do annihilate these morons, so there will be more space for real pros to grow up, it's only a matter of time. As I said some days ago, don't worry... the "bandidos" work of us. Sit and wait. Offer different services. Differentiate yourself from the mass and you'll be rewarded. But don't fall into temptation of cutting down prices. DR is a luxury, and luxury market does not and must not encounter crisis. It depends on what you want. This is my 2 cent.

Oh... i forgot... PERIOD.

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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 10:39 
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salvationlaura wrote:
I know you are the fans of our so-called competitor, since I am the human you can see from SalvationDATA. so you have the opportunity to complain,I believe it will make you feel better. I was wondering if there is someone from ACE, will you shout too? Opps, you won't have such a chance in your lifetime, I guess. :)

Actually I know AceLab guys personally, so I can shout on them not only on forums :)

salvationlaura wrote:
You always complains, always tramp on SalvationDATA

It's easy I'm just saying what I see. If I see shit I tell "this is shit"
salvationlaura wrote:
and always think you are the Real GURU on this forum.

No, I just guru, not "the Real GURU on this forum"
salvationlaura wrote:
You see, it is not good for you to manner that way, it will make us think you wrongly. Is this guy a human or freaky Alien from Mars?

Of course I'm not human. I'm Russian. Didn't you hear Russians are monsters they drink vodka with bears on the Red Square all the time :drink: . And because it's always show in Russia I basically froze my brains off and now I'm a zombie :disabled:
:buhahahaha:

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BlackST
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 11:03 
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Come on guys... go back to the clean rooms... :D
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shahij
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 12:46 
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"jab dekho luk upka khelaph kehte laga, to samjho tum hara tarakki ho raha hey" - In Hindi - I watched a moive named "GURU" - indian Film which was prdouced based on a true story.

The Line Means:
When peoples are talking against you, then think, you are being developed/focused more aggressively.

Good Luck... Going Back To Hospital............

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coffeebean
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 15:42 
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Hi Laura,
You should know, Doomer is an "Artful" :wink: surgeon.


Take thousands of 5 year old boys - play russian roulette.
Winner gets $10m each time he survives. many will die.
handful will get rich after time.
Handful of winners will think they smart - they just lucky.
source : N.N. Taleb
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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 6th, 2009, 15:44 
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Sometimes you make your own luck :wink:
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acforensics
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 2:16 
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I think the bigger DR companies that charge $2000 for recoveries will hurt. We will get their business becasue people will not want to pay this high price, so I expect us all to have a good year!

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BlackST
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Then prepare to do 50$ recoveries, and when the customers will demand for 40,30, and then 10, you'll give them the key of your office. And you'll be the victim.
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BlackST
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
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P.s. Why care for customers emule'd porn and music and warez? It's 80/90% of non corporate data they want to recover. I sell them new drives...
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thatdellguy
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 3:58 
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Got a call from a customer with an obvious seized 1tb seagate today. They heard my price and then sent it to some other place for $199. I almost laughed on the phone but kept my composure...

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BlackST
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Do you expect success or screwed drive for that price? Just curious...
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thatdellguy
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
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What do you think?

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Steve
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
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Gotta love mother nature .. we had several floods today and tonight.
Many businesses flooded
Wonder how many actually had offsite backups :lol:
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PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 4:34 
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thatdellguy wrote:
Got a call from a customer with an obvious seized 1tb seagate today. They heard my price and then sent it to some other place for $199. I almost laughed on the phone but kept my composure...


usually happen to me too... I just can laugh and wish for their LUCK...

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BGman
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 5:01 
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DR companies rely on STUPID and LAZY customers , only!
The HDD's prices are so low that you have to be extremely stupid or lazy not to have backups of your important files...
The crisis will reduce the number of such customers, no doubt!
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BlackST
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
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They may be lazy, stupid and even assholes, but they are our bread and butter... Don't care, just work.

Period. :D
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salvationlaura
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 7:31 
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Hi Falther,

Good idea.

Well, due to the recession, so DR business should do:

1) Cut down the price;
2) Expand business such as Backup, PC/Laptop Repair,Virus Clean and etc.... However, BlackST said DR is luxury, maybe we should stand out from the mass and keep our DR dignity? Well, a real hard decision to make;
3) The last but not least important, our business mode; As DR alwasy keep waiting calls and wait clients to send their drives, mostly individuals who get panic; a serisou question: Can we provide On-site DR Service for emergency and for some special institute?

So, if it is the time for us to go outside the lab and put down our unrealistic self-complacence, put our hands on the dead drives and bring life back to them?

It's just my humble Opinion.


Regards

Laura


falther wrote:
The reasonable price is the point. Some of the established DR companies
will have to rethink their price policy - charging $/€ 2,000.- for a short
and easy work is neither justified nor ethical.

There are now three correctives for such prices:
1. cheaper and easier tools (like those from SD)
2. knowledge is spread (internet video like - "how to change hdd heads")
3. present economy

(The 4th would be ethical criteria, but I just learned from a "collegue", that
the new BMW is more important).

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salvationlaura
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 7:41 
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BGman wrote:
DR companies rely on STUPID and LAZY customers , only!
The HDD's prices are so low that you have to be extremely stupid or lazy not to have backups of your important files...
The crisis will reduce the number of such customers, no doubt!


:mrgreen:

So we should say, Laziness is the source of all innovation and renovation? Yes, lazy men make us have more things to do and ensure us a happier life. But we also ensure lazy men can enjoy a happy and easy life.

I am one of the lazy ppl.

:D

Regards

Laura

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BlackST
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
PostPosted: January 7th, 2009, 9:13 
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If necessay I go where the problem is with some of the necessary equipment, but don't want nobody in whem I'm working. There are some situations where the drive can't move outside the place where it is, but there's a limit to everything.
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BlackST
 Post subject: Re: How can We survive from the Financial Crisis
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P.S: why lower the prices ? I haven't seen Bulgari or Rolex or BMW or Jaguar doing special offers or discount or something similar to season sale... And they are still alive. Yes, even BMW has base model, so why can't we ? Base service = base price but with same quality. Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y. This is the keyword.
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