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 Post subject: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 13:27 
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Hi to all,

i received this wd disk, and when i open it i notice that is missing 5 Heads, and i dont see the heads in the disk.
So if i dont see the Heads but the heads are somewhere in the disk.

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I order a donor, and afther change heads in it try to callibrate 3 times them stop.

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The DCM first 3 numbers match, and also motor number match.

Afther this i open the disk and see if the good heads are "missing / damage " but see that the heads are there.

I had one case that the heads are missing but where stuck in the platte and i could see and remove it.

Any comment please ?

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 13:58 
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Zebong, DCM is not important.
This drives from same family --YG-- and this is one of the conditions.
You should compare head map in both ROM's. It's must be same. This is second codition.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 15:19 
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Hello zebong i would check, for magnetic dust over platters that family has some tendence :(


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 16:12 
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Just curious : where the heads did end ? In the filter ? :D


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 16:28 
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Hi.. :mrgreen:

it does not have damages in platters? :?:
:idea:

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 16:45 
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Another curiosity : did you find the heads in these conditions ? For me this drive is a desperate case (user intervention ?!?) :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 2nd, 2009, 17:20 
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yes, i found the heads like this...

And dont find yet the missing heads, the filter was clean, very clean.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
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I vote for heads being captured by the VCM magnets . Remove top pole and take a look there because the drive is not a bathtub and there's no sink :mrgreen: the heads, unless ground in nanoparticles, should be there.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2009, 0:46 
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There is a slim possibility of a heads stuck to a platter, that what probably took new heads (if I undertood correctly)

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2009, 1:21 
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I think the platters are damaged and contaminated, head exchange will be wasting.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 5th, 2009, 13:49 
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The heads are almost 99% sure on the magnet. These magnets are very strong and it is lickely the heads are blown towards the magnet, while the drive was spinning.

I have eaxactly the same drive which needs a head swap (WD5000AAKS-00TMA0). I am curious if you managed to get the alignment OK and if so how you did it. Did you use the ramp for the swap or just a different tool?


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 5th, 2009, 14:26 
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Hi in this case was not easy change heads , i could do it with a tool that i build and using the ramp.

Abou the aligment .... i am trying :( :( no sucess at the moment

Any info are welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 6th, 2009, 19:44 
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I have also seen where the heads were ripped off and stuck to the platter.


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 18:02 
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I found many heads stuck on the gasket of the cover.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
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The rest of the heads are on the hands of the end users :D


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 10th, 2009, 18:59 
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i am just working on the aligment ...... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
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I DO NOT believe that this drive wasn`t open before and someone remove those heads previously.


so ..... zebong tell us a real story


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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: March 11th, 2009, 12:53 
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Wait ....

what i said is when i open the disk it was missing the heads but the disk came to me closed with seal, i open it.

What happen to the disk it was dropped by the client so heads jump.

At the begginer dont see any heads, but i could find just two.

The others heads is in the disk inside dont knwo where !!!

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: April 13th, 2009, 20:41 
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Hi Guys,

I have a WF5000aaks-00tma0 RE-CERTIFIED which fails on me some time ago. I have some important photos and document on it. I like to recover at least some part of it.
I found the replacement with the exact model number but different month in the same year produced.
I have briefly opened it up to see inside and hooked up with the PC. Well right after turn on the drive I saw that arms moves onto platters and makes couple of back and fort then stopped spinning.
There is no damage either on platters or arm/head. My aim is to swap the platters if can. I know there should be some sort of balance requirement with this type of hard drive that I do not know.
Has anyone done anything similar what I am trying to do? At this point any help is deeply appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: WD5000AAKS - Head change
PostPosted: April 13th, 2009, 21:02 
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Please tell us how you have decided that a platter swap is what's needed for this drive. Is it "accepted folk wisdom"? Did you see it done on an internet video? I am really interested in your decision process, because many people come to this forum thinking that a platter swap is the next step for whatever problem they face.

Unfortunately, you opened the drive, most likely in a contaminated environment. Once you pop the cover on these drives,re-alignment is a very difficult necessity . . . if the drive hasn't already been destroyed by particles.

It may have been that your drive had a PCB problem -- not a mechanical one. It's time to call a pro for sure. There is nothing more you can do except lose your data forever, if you keep working on it.

Sorry, but that's the truth.

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