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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 13:23 
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I see you are a bit ungry, I did not intend to make you (BlackST) so :)

Someone asked a very simple question

"Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses"

most people gave answears that does not deserve to repeat them again as usually with sarcasm, ironically ... Those responses do not fit on scientific areas.

No one asked for secreats, a simple question

"Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses"

or i am misteken and it is also a secreat (who offers the best course)?


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 13:29 
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I'm not angry. It was a reply in general. I said what I think about the matter. Didn't get what exactly your post is about/addressed.
Btw. Who offers the best course? YOU.


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 19th, 2009, 18:51 
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I have been reading this and thinking. If this is such a big issue then why don't someone do as he has done. Write a book, offer some cheap tools for repair, add a few videos, and go to UTube and promote and sell it. You could use 3000 bucks a pop for your work too. It doesn't take that much to do what he has done or does it. Looks like advertising promotes everything and gets the money. He gets people to buy it because it looks like he has a good advertising agent and people are hungry for knowledge. IT is so affordable now a days everyone owns a computer and is curious how their hard drive works and especially when it craps out and they have never backed it up and wants what's on it. Sometime basic knowledge is good and other times it is very dangerous. It can do more harm than good. Read here that his book could be cut down to about forget what did someone say about 10 pages or was it 100 pages not sure. There is also another option to start to offer on line classes to teach DR. You do not have to give all trade secrets away but a good head start in learning what they need to get them started. I think that is all that he is asking is to learn a good foundaton to start off with. Maybe the course he is interested in is not a good one but who else offers a better one and can get people to come to it? That is what I see his question as, What is a good course to take to learn DR.

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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 19th, 2009, 22:23 
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poehere, oh man that is so true
I'm wondering why where is no "Building Spacecrafts for Dummies" written by NASA engineers and also cheap tools to build your own shuttle "Columbia"
They defenitely can pop 3000 presidents of "be a certified astronaut" courses :!:
And after that we can share the courses on the YouTube.
That would be the days :mrgreen:

PS: But I'm just wondering how we can distinguish fake info of the real one 'cause I don't know a shit in spacecrafting

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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 20th, 2009, 1:28 
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I am happy that someone see the logic behind all of this. You deserve the money just as much as he does :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 20th, 2009, 2:17 
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I agree with Doomer.


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 20th, 2009, 2:50 
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@poehere,

I do not agree with everything you say but i like your conclusion.

No Book is bad (it has something to offer you.).
I agree that, now a days, one book becaomes a series of books for commercial reasons BUT,
serious companies promote very good books.

I have experience with microsoft tech (servers) all books from MS are very good.

Now about the on line courses or video courses.
Definetelly no one reveals the very best secreats of his job.
But have in mind that "the very best secreats" of his job is a relative term.
What, for me, is a top secret for Mark Russinovich is not and luckilyy becomes public.

Any logical scientist does not expect to learn secreats, the alphabet he expects.
This is common sences and I do not know (or I DO know) why we (you all) have spent so much time repeating the same again and again.

From my experience I have found wonderful video cources (that teach you practically everything, or at least everything i want). learning the VMware ESX server from HP is one of those. By no means I imply you do not need to study and search but after attending those courses, you more easily follow what ever esle you read blah blah.

See now, how much staff all of us have OFFTOPIC writen and practically nothing about the topic.


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 20th, 2009, 18:41 
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Hi all,
At this knowledgible and knoledgebase forum some persons are working like DUMMIES (but they are having the great capability to make good cartoons and they can make ...,not more than that )and they are the the people who dont want to share or distribute the knowledgebase things and they can say any thing to any person / company to promote there own things / own forum as they think this a open forum ,may be these persons are having lot of postings and as they dont have any identetity i.e scrachy,headcrash etc...
may be after posting this post lot of these type of persons who dont have any identity can scrach any respected person/company or may be ...and they dont want to share the knowledge at this respected forum may be they are having some close loop but these peoples are lot of time to destroy any thing /image or can work like this to make there undisclosed figure ,please think ....and make this forum alive with lot of knowledgible things and many persons want to share the knowledge through this forum ..
And after share of knowledge ,definetily that will not decrese ...
please think....


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 1:13 
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Please please think... Then why don't you publish here the drawings of your tools with quotes and bill of materials? It won't hurt and keep forum alive either. Or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 1:22 
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HDRC Team? Human Development Resource Centre?
Hey, they have training courses too :D

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Course with Hardware
This course is also offered with Hardware for just 1485 USD

Why not $1499 or $14.99?

HDRC Team, have you read http://forum.hddguru.com/new-release-hdd-recovery-for-dummies-t12021.html? Please include your courses with our newly published book, guarantee HOT Seller!!


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 2:27 
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Karl Marx and friends are rolling at 7200 rpm in their graves. What a good conception of mixed COMMUNISM and open knowledge. I don't want to be very rude but please, there's a limit...


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 3:09 
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@HeadCrash, @Blacklist althought nice and smart guies,
have in your mind you are offtopic. :P

Your experience with data recovery cources. if you may, if you are willing, if have time, if ... :P


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 3:27 
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I didn't made the thread go offtopic first.


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 3:44 
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It doesn' t matter first or last, wise, gurus ... must not be influesnced from bad guies :P


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 18:20 
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@mbatsos:

You are the first one to talk to all about staying on topic. I have not seen you offer one on line course for study in the DR field. You have not given an alternative to what has been said except to get down on all in here and complain about everyone of us. I do not point fingers to anyone person and complain about any of them. To me you are hear like all newbees to get as much as you can from the people in this field. You take their advice and use it freely and benefit from what they have to say. But to their face you cut them down and ack like you have all the answers to what is being said here. I have not seen one answer you have supplied to anyone here helping out on fixing a drive that is broken. Is it that you do not know how to do this and only seek to be quiet and when something is not said that you approve of you speek up and say all this crap to everyone here.

I only gave an idea to the ones that complain the most and want an answer who offers the best DR courses. Well take a look around you and go and search on the Internet to find your answer. You are going to find one that comes up all the time and that is Scott. Most people who offer courses for DR are the manufactures of the material that you buy. There is no secret or magic to all of this. It is a field that people here have learned from the beginning.

If you are interested in a course the best one is self taught with a lot of trial and error. My best advice to you is try and find some of the origianl hard drives that were installed in compuers say starting about 18 years ago that should be far enough back. Then take these drives and move forward from there. That is how they have their knowledge today. They had to start from the beginning to understand the make up and working of the first drive and move to the newer drives of today. You think it is going to be easy to pick up a modern hard drive of today and be able to repair it just like that or even going to a course that offers repair of hard drives. After finishing this class are you prepared to do the work on your own. I will tell you the answer to this will be no. You have to start from the beginning and work you way up in this field. There is no simple answer and no simple solutions to fixing and repairing a hard drive today. People advance so fast now aways in the IT that today one repair work and tomorrow it will no longer work. May of these people have invested their entire working caree not to speak about money out of their own pockets to find a way to fix these drives and get the data off of them for their clients. Each day there is expences to keep up the material and tools they use and have to be replaced. This is not walking down to the local hardware store and buying it off the shelves.

So please if you want all of them to stay on topic then do the same or leave it alone and do not answer again. If you have a good knowledge of courses to take for learning DR please share them here so all can benefit from you knowledge. If you have nothing to offer then stop to cut down others who do. That is my best advice to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 22nd, 2009, 2:36 
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@poehere

Q1)” You are the first one to talk to all about staying on topic.”
A1) It sounds to me you are out of control, are you drinking any substances?

Advice: All members are grown ups and do not need a lawyer, they can support themselves.

Q2) “I have not seen one answer you have supplied to anyone here helping out on fixing a drive that is broken.”
A2) Rest my case.

Q3 “I only gave an idea to the ones that complain the most and want an answer who offers the best DR courses.”
A3) Personally, I do not want an answer. I have taken seminars on
Microsoft, Citrix, Vmware, Linux … tech I am 50 years old and have NEVER seen the question “Who offers the best CBT” to be considered top secret.
Man, do you know reading, please read my answers and urge with my position. You keep preaching non sence.

Q4) “If you are interested in a course the best one is self taught with a lot of trial and error.”
A4) It is obvious you did not read my previous post.
From my experience I have found wonderful video courses (that teach you practically everything, or at least everything i want).
1) learning the VMware ESX server from HP is one of those.
2) Learning Network Analysis from Laura was another.
I can mention as many you want.
And because you do not understand what you read let me elaborate a bit more.
By no means have I implied you do not need to study and search but after attending those courses, you more easily follow what ever else you read blah blah.
Since you learn by trial and error, why do you use others tech?
Why you don’t reinvent their tech, I am sure you will learn much better.
STOP licking this caramel PERIOD, you convince NO ONE and you are not even sincere with yourself.

Q5 “So please if you want all of them to stay on topic then do the same or leave it alone and do not answer again”
A5) Men have you tried a lot to put this NICE CHERY ON TOP OF THE PIE?

Substances, substances … they fry the brain.
Do you know what DEMOCRACY is? Have any idea, have you ever hear about freely express your opinion xm … Substances, substances … they fry your brain.

Q6) “If you have a good knowledge of courses to take for learning DR please share them here so all can benefit from you knowledge.”
A6) On my field, I do it, and it makes me feel good helping the community.

Q7) “That is my best advice to you.”
A7) My advice to you is stop using substances, at least when you publish your ideas, they badly influence you.

PS I do not address my ideas to every one as you say, there are a lot of decent people here and try very politely to resist this behavior.


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 22nd, 2009, 3:05 
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After reading your response wish I was. Now you are so smart for being 50 years old and have taken so many classes

WHAT ARE THE BEST DR CLASSES YOU HAVE TAKEN AND AND CAN SHARE WITH EVERYONE YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.

You can write a good line of bull but you still have nothing to back you up, show some balls if you are such a man and tell everyone the course you have taken and what you have learned inside of it and can offer other to be interested in. All the course you have offered is not related to DR training only servers and other networking functions.

By the way I have never licked anyone ass to get ahead and impress anyone. I don't have my head stuck so far up my ass either that I need a glass stomach to see through it.

Courses you have taken so have I. I needed them in my job. Except for me it was not learning it was doing. I have trained more people in more countries around the world than you can imange. I do not need to prove to anyone and especially you what I know and what I do.

Sounds to me like you must know something about smoking substances becasue that is how you come across. Don't accuse if you don't know what you are talking about. Cam't handle it?

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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 22nd, 2009, 3:16 
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On the HardDriveSpray can there's written ' HARMFUL WHEN BREATHED - USE ON A WELL VENTILATED AREA ' ... Careful with these substances!


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 Post subject: Re: Your experiences with Data Recovery Courses
PostPosted: April 22nd, 2009, 3:24 
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EUREKA !! That's why people buy / rent Lex Steele or Mandingo videos... From NERD / total jerk to stud ! (sorry, couldn't resist).


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