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 Post subject: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 4th, 2009, 19:18 
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Several weeks ago, I fried my 750GB Samsung harddisk (SAMSUNG HD753LJ F1_3D Rev A) by using a power plug from a regular 80 mm fan which has been subject to the 5V mod:

I've applied the 5V (see [1]) mod on three of my 80mm fans where they are connected together in series. At the end of the last fan's power cable there is a molex connector (see [2]), and without thinking any further I plugged the molex connecter into the Samsung disk. When I switched the machine on, BIOS wouldn't detect the harddisk. So, I think what's happened is that the harddisk has gotten 12V where it should have gotten 5V, and 5V where it should have gotten 12V. :-(

Since that particular harddisk uses SATA power connector, I used a SATA-to-molex power converter (see [3]) between the fan molex and the SATA harddisk.

The question is whether replacing the PCB from a similar harddisk will recover my files? I am mostly concerned how important it is to find a PCB with exactly the same firmware.

The closest thread that is somewhat similar to my problem is this: samsung-hd753lj-power-surge-t11606.html

[1]: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article6-page1.html
[2]: http://www.efilliate.com/images/prod_images/P305a.jpg
[3]: http://www.aria.co.uk/static/images/pro ... TA-POW.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 5th, 2009, 9:56 
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Post a pic of your PCB.

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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 6th, 2009, 11:39 
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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 6th, 2009, 15:53 
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Check the two TVS diodes (two black rectangular components next to each other top left of PCB) for continuity with a multimeter, these should NOT be short.

Also check the "000" component next to them, this SHOULD be short.

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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 7th, 2009, 8:51 
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I will do that and will let you know. Thanks! :-)


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 7th, 2009, 20:43 
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Hi again.

Everything appears to be the opposite of what you have suggested: The left TVS has a 7-8 ohm resistance and the right 0 ohm resistance. I consider them both as shorted. Also, the 000 component isn't shorted, maximum resistance according to the multimeter. What can I make out of this? Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 7th, 2009, 22:40 
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If accurate then sounds like two blown TVS and a blown fuse.

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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 8th, 2009, 2:30 
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If read correctly, then yes.

Ideal solution is to replace all 3 components.

Risky solution (at your risk) is to just remove the two shorted TVS's and short the fuse.

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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 8th, 2009, 8:30 
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Check for OTHER problems beyond... or "va-va-vooma" DC-DC and PREAMP.... beware...


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 8th, 2009, 11:22 
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Better still, take to a pro.

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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 9th, 2009, 17:10 
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Either the way, you wouldn't recommend "simply" replacing the PCB over replacing the components?

BlackST: Sorry, what is "va-va-vooma"? Are you referring to an opamp? >_<


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: September 10th, 2009, 6:05 
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Va-va-vooma ... ehm... like a car running away at light speed ... or when you hear "CRACK! POOOOF!" and see a little cloud of smoke...


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 Post subject: Re: 5V fan mod may have killed my disk
PostPosted: February 17th, 2010, 8:15 
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Hi again.

I know it's an old post but I finally had the luck and time to fix the hard drive so for the sake of history (yup, Google will handle that :).

The fix was "simply" to find a harddisk with a matching PCB. My dead disk's print board's revision number is 5. Last autumm I bought a Samsung 750GB REV. A rev. 6 in a store but at that time I didn't know the print board's revision number also matters - rev 6 didn't bring my disk back to life. [1] Then a few days ago I got hold of a rev. 4-disk (also 750GB REV. A) and that one worked well with my dead disk - well it's no longer dead! :-)

I'm just wondering what REV. A means - obviously, it's neither the firmware or the PCB version as it is printed on all three harddisks. Oh well...

[1]: Rev 6 PCB also looks pretty different from Rev 4 and 5.


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