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 Post subject: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 3:17 
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ok so this drive decided to crap out on me and will not spin up or anything...from what i've read so far it could the pcb. i havent taken it off of the hard drive yet bc i dont have any star bits around at the moment. im more of a car guy and not a circuit board guy so im stepping in unknown waters here. you guys have an idea how i can get this thing spinning up to get my data off it?
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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 9:59 
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Just replace the PCB with good one and resolder the ROM to the new PCB, and see what will happen. if your drive back to work again then you are lucky, if not then the preamp is gone too and you have to spend $$$$ to get your data.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 12:01 
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unknown20010 wrote:
Just replace the PCB with good one and resolder the ROM to the new PCB, and see what will happen. if your drive back to work again then you are lucky, if not then the preamp is gone too and you have to spend $$$$ to get your data.



ur gonna have to explain this one in a little plain english for me....where is the rom on the old one. and what is the preamp.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 12:16 
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also is it possible to switch a pcb out without having to do the soldering? i've never been that great at it.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 12:20 
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If you really want your data then send it to a PRO near you.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 12:21 
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unknown20010 wrote:
If you really want your data then send it to a PRO near you.



that just gets too expensive. the stuff on there is just personal stuff i would like to have, not stuff that is extremely important.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 12:28 
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WLJohnson05 wrote:
also is it possible to switch a pcb out without having to do the soldering? i've never been that great at it.


No, You will have to transfer ROM in order for your drive to work.
ROM chip has 8 legs and marked as U12.
If you ruin your ROM chip, it will cost a lot to restore it.

Preamp chip is inside a drive, if its fails, whole head stack has to be changed.

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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 13:21 
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harddrivespecialist wrote:
WLJohnson05 wrote:
also is it possible to switch a pcb out without having to do the soldering? i've never been that great at it.


No, You will have to transfer ROM in order for your drive to work.
ROM chip has 8 legs and marked as U12.
If you ruin your ROM chip, it will cost a lot to restore it.

Preamp chip is inside a drive, if its fails, whole head stack has to be changed.


is there a certain soldering iron that works better...the one i have is just the cheap one from like walmart.


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 13:40 
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WLJohnson05 wrote:
is there a certain soldering iron that works better...the one i have is just the cheap one from like walmart.


Yes, hot air soldering station. :)

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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 13:51 
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well i finally found my star bits and took the board out...looks like i found the problem...
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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 14:04 
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looks like i found the problem, once its approved u can see the picture...


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 14:34 
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Your square chips is burned.
I can see darker color on a board.

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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 14:44 
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harddrivespecialist wrote:
Your square chips is burned.
I can see darker color on a board.


yea thats the one thats burned. i posted a pic of the burn but it has to be approved before being posted..


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 15:45 
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so most likely this is the problem right? so all i need to do is order the new board and have someone swap the old rom (the box looking thing that sits in the u12 spot) over to the new board and put everything back together and it should work like it did....is that right?


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 23:26 
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unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 19th, 2009, 23:49 
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unknown20010 wrote:
unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone


can ya explain the preamp thing? so you're saying i cant swap the board and the old rom and have it work?


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 20th, 2009, 11:31 
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Still have to find a new board and swap ROM.

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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
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harddrivespecialist wrote:
Still have to find a new board and swap ROM.


the new board is on the way. just have to find someone around my area who can do the swap. i dont trust my solder skills enough to attempt it myself. any suggestions on places to attempt to take it to?


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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
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WLJohnson05 wrote:
harddrivespecialist wrote:
Still have to find a new board and swap ROM.


the new board is on the way. just have to find someone around my area who can do the swap. i dont trust my solder skills enough to attempt it myself. any suggestions on places to attempt to take it to?


You still have my offer. :)

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 Post subject: Re: WD 1600jb external problem
PostPosted: September 20th, 2009, 21:37 
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I assume that harddrivespecialist offered his help . . . and I recommend him if he did.

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