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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 11:26 
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Spildit wrote:
DontBeThatGuy wrote:
Spildit WDR doesnt work with win 8.1 so i will have to install XP onto a spare computer. I will try and get that done in an hour or few. :D


Sure, it's XP/win 7 only and it have to be 32 bit version of the OS.

In any case i know that you already got it right with the undo bin ...

Maybe it's time to check those possible fake bad sectors with READ LONG ?


It has not dawned on me until now but i had cloned one of these drives before using the same acronis and same settings and there were no bad sectors on that drive. So i dont think fake bad sectors is the problem.

Can one of you guys please explain why crystaldiskinfo displays GS001A on the original drive but the 2GS001A on the modified WD drive?
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 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 11:29 
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I noticed in the disassembly of the .exe that right after the getHardDriveSerial function there are references to checking things about firmware. There is also quite a bit of PowerShell. the monitoring is insane, reminds me of modern videogame machines you find in amusement arcades where everything is connected to the vendors network and they monitor ever coin, play, minutes played, times played, etc.. every stat you can think of is sent straight to the vendor.
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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 12:14 
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Spildit, I am new to this low level hard drive modification so bare with me. I finally got winxp 32bit installed on a spare computer with sata ports...lol. I am installing WDR now so i will try what you suggested.
Please bare with me. Sorry it took so long to get going with XP.

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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 13:08 
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In WDR it shows the firmware as GS001A but in Ascii view with crystaldiskinfo it shows as 2GS001A so i dont know what is going on.

Both the original and another spare Toshiba same model both show GS001A in ascii mode.
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fzabkar
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 13:29 
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Spildit wrote:
If you are getting GS001A on the original and 2GS001A that might be the issue.

As I have explained to the OP twice already, he is not getting a "2" in the firmware version. That Identify Device word is signifying that the drive is using 50 bytes for ECC in READ/WRITE LONG.

To the OP, please copy and paste your before-and-after Identify Device data blocks (not the whole CrystalDiskInfo report).

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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 13:47 
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this was after i used WDR to change the serial
Do you want before using hddss or undo?
Code:
-- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
        0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9
000: 427A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000
010: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2058 3141 3853 3130 4853
020: 0000 4000 0032 4753 3030 3141 2020 544F 5348 4942
030: 4120 4D4B 3332 3736 4753 5820 2020 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 0000 2F00
050: 4001 0000 0000 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110
060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000
070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 0706 0000 004C 0040
080: 01FE 0000 746B 7F09 6163 7469 BC09 6163 207F 0030
090: 0030 0080 FFFE 0000 80FE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
100: EAB0 2542 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 5000 0393
110: 9598 2DA2 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 4010
120: 4010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 0000
130: 0000 0000 0000 169E 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
140: 0000 0000 0004 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
150: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 303F 0000 0000 0000
210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1518 0000 0000
220: 0000 0000 100E 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 CBA5
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fzabkar
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 14:13 
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From the ATA standard:

    Words 10 - 19 Serial number (ATA string) (see 7.16.7.10)
    Words 23 - 26 Firmware revision (ATA string) (see 7.16.7.13)
    Words 27 - 46 Model number (ATA string) (see 7.16.7.14)
    Words 100 - 103 Number of User Addressable Logical Sectors (QWord) (see 7.16.7.53)
    Words 108 - 111 World wide name (see 7.16.7.58)

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fzabkar
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 16:18 
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Spildit wrote:
What about spoofing the entire module 02 on the WD so it would report exactly the same info as the Toshiba ?

The module doesn't contain all the Identify Device info. For example, I can't find the RPM word.

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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 18:22 
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Spildit wrote:
Well, then if the software checks that it's ... game over.

Back to the start .... Maybe with a Toshiba drive and some firmware tools to change it's serial number ....


Thats what i originally wanted to do but fzabkar mentioned there is is most likely crc. I have no problem desoldering the spi flash eeprom and dumping the data and reprogramming it but if its not possible to edit it then no point going through the trouble.
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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 18:28 
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fzabkar wrote:
Spildit wrote:
What about spoofing the entire module 02 on the WD so it would report exactly the same info as the Toshiba ?

The module doesn't contain all the Identify Device info. For example, I can't find the RPM word.


with the first edited hddss.bin flashed and original cloned, i was able to get into explorer and run an operator settings program and where it displays the motherboard, and other device info, it listed the WD as generic hard drive where it normally would list the toshiba model and serial.
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fzabkar
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 18:36 
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DontBeThatGuy wrote:
with the first edited hddss.bin flashed and original cloned, i was able to get into explorer and run an operator settings program and where it displays the motherboard, and other device info, it listed the WD as generic hard drive where it normally would list the toshiba model and serial.

To me that suggests that the unit is looking for some vendor specific information.

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fzabkar
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: May 1st, 2015, 18:41 
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DontBeThatGuy wrote:
Spildit wrote:
Well, then if the software checks that it's ... game over.

Back to the start .... Maybe with a Toshiba drive and some firmware tools to change it's serial number ....


Thats what i originally wanted to do but fzabkar mentioned there is is most likely crc. I have no problem desoldering the spi flash eeprom and dumping the data and reprogramming it but if its not possible to edit it then no point going through the trouble.

I believe it may be possible to edit the ROM. It appears to be comprised of separate configuration pages, each with its own CRC. If I'm correct, then it would simply be a matter of carving out the relevant CPs and patching them into the clone. In any case, specialist firmware tools would know how to recalculate the CRCs.

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PostPosted: May 2nd, 2015, 14:39 
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DontBeThatGuy
 Post subject: Re: Need to save a Hard Drive Controller not the HDA
PostPosted: June 2nd, 2015, 19:13 
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Spildit wrote:
Did you have any luck with this ?


Yes i solved it. It was the serial#/model#/fw version#. The reason hddhackr didnt work originally was because i had to reallocate the bad sectors.

I have not gone into detail yet to see if it is just the serial# or if its all 3. Further testing is in order. It would be nice to use something other then pre 2013 WD drives. It would be nice to use a SSD but i am not aware of any that you can change the serial#..ect..ect.
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